منتدى شباب جامعة إب
نـثر مـرورك في الــدرب زهـراً وريحانـا . . . وفاح عبــق اســــمك بوجـودك الفتــانـــا

فإن نطقت بخيـر فهو لشخصك إحسانا . . . وإن نطقت بشر فهو على شخصك نكرانا

وإن بقيت بين إخوانك فنحـن لك أعوانـا . . . وإن غادرت فنحن لك ذاكرين فلا تنسـانــا


منتدى شباب جامعة إب
نـثر مـرورك في الــدرب زهـراً وريحانـا . . . وفاح عبــق اســــمك بوجـودك الفتــانـــا

فإن نطقت بخيـر فهو لشخصك إحسانا . . . وإن نطقت بشر فهو على شخصك نكرانا

وإن بقيت بين إخوانك فنحـن لك أعوانـا . . . وإن غادرت فنحن لك ذاكرين فلا تنسـانــا


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 شرح قصيدة go and catch a falling star

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كيف تعرفت علينا : ....
الكــلــيــة : COLLEGE OF EDUCATION
القسم ( التخصص ) : ENGLISH DEPARTMENT
السنة الدراسية (المستوى الدراسي) : LEVEL THREE
الجنس : انثى
عدد الرسائل : 2052
العمر : 33
الدوله : YEMEN
العمل/الترفيه : STUDENT
المزاج : confident
نقاط : 2203
تاريخ التسجيل : 18/03/2011
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The Poem
للشاعر John donne
Go and catch a falling star,

Get with child a mandrake root,

Tell me where all past years are,

Or who cleft the Devil's foot,

Teach me to hear mermaids singing,

Or to keep off envy's stinging,

And find

What wind

Serves to advance an honest mind.If thou be'st born to strange sights,

Things invisible to see,

Ride ten thousand days and nights,

Till age snow white hairs on thee;

Thou, when thou return'st, wilt tell me

All strange wonders that befell thee,

And swear

No where

Lives a woman true, and fair.If thou find'st one, let me know,

Such a pilgrimage were sweet;

Yet do not, I would not go,

Though at next door we might meet:

Though she were true, when you met her,

And last, till you write your letter,

Yet she

Will be

False, ere I come, to two or three.



The Explanation
The poem talks about the
difficulties to find a woman that is both single
and virginal.

"Though she were
true, when you met her,

And last, till you write your letter,
Yet she
Will be
False, ere I come, to two
or three."


Stating that by the time
you have found this supposedly fair
and "true" woman, by the time you write a love letter to her
she would have already slept with several men, therefore the persona believes
that it is hard to find a true woman
and uses the myths at the beginning of the poem to back up this
arguement.


poetic analysis :.

The first stanza refers to
utter imposibilities, it is not possible to
catch a falling star, in the time, a falling star was a thing of great destruction (it is of course referring to a
comet). A m
andrake root is a plant which
can take human form, however when it does is always male, meaning it is
impossible to make pregnant. Mermaids, as referred to in the fifth line are
mythological greek creatures who with their singing lured sailors to their
deaths, by sitting on rocks
and enchanting the brain of a
sailor to crash, whilst the mermaid slipped enigmatically away. The utter
frustration with this scenario is that mermaids were actually genderless, which
meant that their beauty was for nothing but to kill, it was said that as soon
as the singing of a siren was heard, you were doomed to certain death (the only
one to have escaped this fate was oddysseus). Envies stinging was supposed to
be imposible to avoid, envy is often anthropomorphasised as a scorpion,
and once a scorpion has you in it's vice, just as
envy does, it is impossible to escape. The next 11 lines are referring to the
fact that the previous were all impossibilities, however they are more likely
to happen than to find a woman fair
and true the following lines, up to the end suggest that even if one
were to find a woman fair
and true, she would stay that
way for so little time that when she were brought to him, she would no longer
be.

.: poetic analysis :.

The first stanza refers to
utter imposibilities, it is not possible to
catch a falling star, in the time, a falling star was a thing of great destruction (it is of course referring to a
comet). A m
andrake root is a plant which
can take human form, however when it does is always male, meaning it is
impossible to make pregnant. Mermaids, as referred to in the fifth line are
mythological greek creatures who with their singing lured sailors to their
deaths, by sitting on rocks
and enchanting the brain of a
sailor to crash, whilst the mermaid slipped enigmatically away. The utter
frustration with this scenario is that mermaids were actually genderless, which
meant that their beauty was for nothing but to kill, it was said that as soon
as the singing of a siren was heard, you were doomed to certain death (the only
one to have escaped this fate was oddysseus). Envies stinging was supposed to
be imposible to avoid, envy is often anthropomorphasised as a scorpion,
and once a scorpion has you in it's vice, just as
envy does, it is impossible to escape. The next 11 lines are referring to the
fact that the previous were all impossibilities, however they are more likely
to happen than to find a woman fair
and true the following lines, up to the end suggest that even if one
were to find a woman fair
and true, she would stay that
way for so little time that when she were brought to him, she would no longer
be.


The persona in this poem,
which is also a dramatic monologue, is telling his listener about the
fickleness
and inconstancy of women. His
use of mythological charactes
and situations suggests that a constant woman is also just a figment of
the imagination. In the second stanza, he tells his listener that if they were
to ride for an age they would still never be able to find a woman who is
"true,
and fair". And, he continues in the thrid stanza, even if he
did, by the time the persona meets her, she will have shown her true colours
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it's wonderful topic

A great choice

and this is a picture for jhon donne

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شذى القلوب
مشرفة قسم أدآب انجليزي
مشرفة قسم أدآب انجليزي
شذى القلوب


كيف تعرفت علينا : ....
الكــلــيــة : COLLEGE OF EDUCATION
القسم ( التخصص ) : ENGLISH DEPARTMENT
السنة الدراسية (المستوى الدراسي) : LEVEL THREE
الجنس : انثى
عدد الرسائل : 2052
العمر : 33
الدوله : YEMEN
العمل/الترفيه : STUDENT
المزاج : confident
نقاط : 2203
تاريخ التسجيل : 18/03/2011
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welcome to u Never back down

you always bright my topics



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An analysis of Donne's poem "Go and catch a fallling star
"

In his poem, Go and Catch a Falling Star, John Donne demonstrates the impossibility of finding the perfect female. The poem, with its quiet yet bitter cynicism of women, reflects the underlying theme of many of Donne's other works in which he blames the evilness of women for his pain and heartbreak.
The first stanza of the poem is a list of impossible tasks, all of which Donne compares to finding an honest, good woman. The poem begins with a strong yet impossible command: "Go and catch a falling star". Already Donne has demonstrated something that is basically impossible. He does not use fallen but "falling," showing that hope is not all lost and that although the star (often a symbol of hope and faith) is falling, it has not completely hit the ground yet.
So, while Donne asks the impossible he still exhibits hope. He then states to "Get with child a mandrake root." The mandrake is a poisonous and narcotic plant that was formerly falsely used for its roots, which has been said to resemble the human flesh, to promote conception. Supposedly, when pulled from the ground it would let out an awesome shriek and cause death to the person who uprooted it. By using "child" and "mandrake root," Donne exemplifies the deception of the root and the impossibility of getting a child from the root.
Also, the mandrake reflects the lethality of women perceived by Donne. In the third and fourth line, Donne orders the reader to tell him exactly everything about the past and who split the Devil's hoof. Both, including his desire to hear mermaids sing, are mysteries that are impossible to solve. Also, the devil's hoof and mandrake root resemble each other with 3 prongs each, symbolizing the multiplicities and deception of women which is furthered by Donne's mention of mermaids, creatures that are women only from the waist up and lure men to death with their beautiful voices (similar to the Sirens in The Odyssey).
Donne's bitterness is revealed in the sixth to ninth lines, "Or to keep off envy's stinging an honest mind." The envy he speaks of is the envy of others that lust after another man's woman, and he argues that it is impossible for jealous ones not to torment and compete with the man they are envious of. Donne also implies that honesty is never awarded because he has not found a wind that has brought prosperity to the honest mind, something he believes to be impossible to find. In modern day terms, "Nice guys finish last."


In the second stanza Donne implies that no matter how
long and far one searches, the perfect woman will never be found. He achieves this by comparing finding that woman to a "strange sight" and uses the paradoxical concept of "Things invisible go see." He is telling the reader to go see something invisible, which is obviously impossible and extremely mocking, much like his first stanza. He then says to the reader that he can "Ride ten thousand days and nights" until his hair turns gray but when he comes back, he will tell tales of all the strange wonders that befell thee," but he will not have found a woman that is both true and fair.
Donne's diction mocks that of a fairy tale. By using "ten thousand day and nights" and "snow white." Donne plays with a fairy tale tone in the second stanza, obviously to reflect his telling of an imaginary journey but also to add to his argument that a true and fair female is only found in make-believe stories and tall tales and to find one would be unrealistic.
In the third stanza, Donne shows a slight hint of optimism but quickly recedes back to his cynical state of mind, dismissing women as highly deceptive creatures. He begins by saying to the reader, "If thou find'st one, let me know." If, by any small chance, the perfect woman is to be found, Donne wants to be the first to know because "such a pilgrimage were sweet." Any flash of hope exhibited by Donne quickly dies in the next lines. The reader sees his thinking pattern when he hastily changes his mind - "Yet do not; I would not go." Donne explains that although a true and fair woman was to be found he wishes to take no part in seeing her because from the time she is found to the time it takes to write a letter, she will have slept with two or three men.
Donne goes far enough to say that "Though at next door we might meet", meaning even if she lives right next door, she probably will have been "false" with at least two or three men already. By comparing the time frame of writing a letter to how long it takes for the woman to cheat, Donne displays his extreme lack of faith in the female sex.
By pairing objects that normally would have never been associated together like "a falling star" and "a mandrake root" or "the devil's foot" with the song of mermaids, Donne juxtaposes these conceits and illustrates both the beauty and treachary of women. Also, Donne uses a mocking tone by handing the reader a multitude of impossible tasks and a journey of ten thousand days, all the while knowing the reader will return with nothing. Bitterness is revealed through Donne's diction of blunt commands like "go:, "get", "teach" and "tell". Donne uses metaphysical comparisons to stress the impossibility of finding a "true and fair" w[/color]oman.
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شذى القلوب
مشرفة قسم أدآب انجليزي
مشرفة قسم أدآب انجليزي
شذى القلوب


كيف تعرفت علينا : ....
الكــلــيــة : COLLEGE OF EDUCATION
القسم ( التخصص ) : ENGLISH DEPARTMENT
السنة الدراسية (المستوى الدراسي) : LEVEL THREE
الجنس : انثى
عدد الرسائل : 2052
العمر : 33
الدوله : YEMEN
العمل/الترفيه : STUDENT
المزاج : confident
نقاط : 2203
تاريخ التسجيل : 18/03/2011
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oh niiiiiiiiiiiiiice

thank u for ur addition


this poem in my opinion is cynical poem


and I didnot agree with the poet in about what he say about women
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كيف تعرفت علينا : Just heard then a click
الكــلــيــة : Arts
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الجنس : ذكر
عدد الرسائل : 65
العمر : 36
الدوله : Yemen
العمل/الترفيه : Lecturer
المزاج : .........
نقاط : 131
تاريخ التسجيل : 30/12/2010
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مُساهمةموضوع: رد: شرح قصيدة go and catch a falling star   شرح قصيدة go and catch a falling star Icon_minitimeالسبت مايو 05, 2012 10:57 pm

Donne do not just utter things like that
he wrote the poem after he examined the psychology of women deeply
So i d agree with him in one sen
se....?x
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